Are Computers Still Getting Faster?

Are Computers Still Getting Faster?

In a recent episode I explored a 10-year-old MacBook to see if it could still keep up in today’s world, and surprisingly it could. So in this episode I explore why that is.

Guest stars include:
Rob Ivy / The Obsolete Geek
Mike Murray / The GeekPub
Robin Harbron / http://www.p1xl.com
Clint Basinger / Lazy Game Reviews

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50 Comments

  1. Orlando Moreno on September 2, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    Browser tabs are consuming more memory because of an "obesity" crisis in web pages. Lots of layered client-side code, trackers, ads, side content and apps… They really have no consideration for multi tab workflow…



  2. chrism3784 on September 2, 2019 at 2:41 pm

    watching this now first time, laughing about the 100k subscriber plague, they up to 957k as of now



  3. Math Teacher on September 2, 2019 at 2:44 pm

    windows 98 run much smoother on my old pc than win 10 on my new pc.
    one reason is software power demand on hardware power ratio
    another reason is not all software can use the multi-core ability.



  4. Cristaliana Ivor on September 2, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    well my laptop I use regulary is ten years old it has 2 cores at 2 Ghz (which is only halve of what my gaming pc can do) and 4GB of RAM. It works well for many tasks like programming, watching youtube… some things lagg because e.g. facebook is badly optimized. also games hardly work because it does not have a real graphics card, only some integrated chip.
    I only bought myself a new laptop because I like drawing and the new one has stylus support. Okay and because its so heavy that you could probably kill someone with it.



  5. Forest Gump on September 2, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    Most people just brows the net and watch videos which doesnt require a super Computer. You can also still upgrade a 10 year old PC quite easily with SSD HD, More Ram and the latests video card so the CPU isnt so important….



  6. Eric Richards on September 2, 2019 at 2:48 pm

    Try playing modern games on your ten year old computer then youโ€™ll see the problem



  7. Optidorf on September 2, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    Next step: quantum computing ๐Ÿ˜€



  8. Realmantik on September 2, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    I want to see trinary logic in computers



  9. biggs hasty on September 2, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    I know this is an old video, but it’s still kinda relevant. I get asked this question all the time. Thanks for uploading.



  10. john locke on September 2, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    give this motherfucker 1 million subscribers ๐Ÿค™



  11. Road Blocked on September 2, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    Great video Jared thx



  12. PERIODIC TABLE on September 2, 2019 at 2:55 pm

    also clockspeeds do still matter, but it isnt the only thing that matters



  13. 51lunt on September 2, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Computers used to be for people who create content now it is for people who are consumers of this content. I am over simplifying. Another subject linked to this one is the lack of diversity of processor’s architecture : the PS3 processor was so good that it served for American army for parallel calculation with Linux. But it seemed the coding was very difficult with this kind of architecture.



  14. iggytse on September 2, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Cloud computing shifted the heavy processing from the client pc to the server on the cloud. The only people to need serious pc power are gamers and video editors etc.



  15. Da's pas flauw on September 2, 2019 at 2:59 pm

    Also, the change in hardware architecture and config, meant having to switch to a new O.S. with each generation. Now not so much. Also from a business point of view; platforms with long term establishment have shown to pay off more; google playstore.



  16. CrazyArtEducator on September 2, 2019 at 2:59 pm

    My theory is that once we got 24bit multichannel sound and 24bit hires graphics, the demand for faster and powerful computers slowed down. Cool songs! In return listen to "Nebawanganza"! And thanks for the 8-bit stuff. Elementary and fundamental things which still apply!



  17. Andres Berger on September 2, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    We got to a point that software is getting very costly to produce, because it is extremely large and complicated. Another reason is that companies no longer know how to slow down our computers… ๐Ÿ™‚



  18. BitVolt on September 2, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    Dude you are awesome !



  19. gavendb on September 2, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    thanks for watching, keep your C64 in a vise.



  20. Ryan K on September 2, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    i just got one of those s9 samsung phones and , stock and stripped to bare essentials, i have less than a gb of ram free… sux.



  21. Bryan Liguori on September 2, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    So my 2010 Dell laptop that still runs like it’s 2012 is not an anomaly lol
    I just wish it could run Sim City 4 at full graphics (which came out back in 2003!)



  22. felipe bustamante on September 2, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Now I have a mac pro 1.1, who boot win 10 without campboots and work well, and I think to take out the board and put a new. I try apple but, is very interesting soft but is so expensive, then make me rethink in back to windows,



  23. John Dunlap on September 2, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Another commonality is that computer architecture is much more stable than it used to be. Speeds and capacities increase but, at a functional level, they aren’t doing anything differently than older computers.



  24. Chincer Dante on September 2, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    since i watch this from a computer that’s over 10 years old i feel comply to comment, i have work a bit with computers in my country and the longevity of windows XP is just surprising, also older computers are cheaper and more convenient for single purpose equipment (like selling lottery tickets, cash machine software or administrative software). old computers seem to hold surprisingly good since you can always just run old software sacrificing some improvements and features



  25. Electric Monk on September 2, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    clock speed + spyware.



  26. Danfuerth Gillis on September 2, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    The consumer is really the last sheep to eat new products. There was 300x Microscopes in 1850, there was Electron Microscopes in 1930’s, there was Solid state drives in 1970, there was Led technologies decades before it reach consumers, the Original Pentium supported 64 gigs of ram with PAE, 64 bit is a con and there was never a need to switch all hardware to 64 bit drivers since a lot of hardware is still 32 bit internally and all CPU’s have supported 64+ gigs of ram since the Pentium 1. Nvidia is the reason why everyone was forced to 64 bit. Consumers always get lame hardware and computing power compared to what is being used Industrialy.



  27. 2wheelphoto on September 2, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    Main reason is because companies are able to get away with charging consumers more for less computer, because of branding and most people who have computers for personal use donโ€™t know much about them.



  28. 2wheelphoto on September 2, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    You should ask Louis Rossman



  29. Name Surname on September 2, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    now you’re getting 1million subs



  30. Mano Erina on September 2, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    Awesome



  31. Cranky Fox on September 2, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    To answer the question. Yes. Moore’s law *only* referred to transistor counts on a single chip. This whole debate over "speed" is largely irrelevant to Moore’s law. There are many reasons for this, but the main reasons why it feels like we aren’t getting faster computers boils down to three problems.
    1: most people aren’t taught to code effectively.
    2: most companies and coders never take advantage of new instruction sets and parallelism because they don’t know how to break a serial task into parallel subtasks
    3: Bad design and greedy decisions destroy optimization.
    Windows xp ran on 256mb of ram.
    Windows 10 requires 8gb minimum for effective running. Phones and computers ship with bloatware and other garbage that slows down the computer.
    In summary, computers are astronomically faster at real computing than the old computers ever were at a fraction of the price and size they used to be.



  32. chrism3784 on September 2, 2019 at 3:18 pm

    I think a small part is, for one, we peaked out at resolution, our eyes cannot see past 4k resolution. In fact HD is about as good as most our eyes can even see. I have really good vision and I can barely tell the difference between HD and 4k. I can, just barely so 4k is good, but 8k? Humans, even with the best vision possible, will not be able tell any difference. Lets work on getting 4k to 120hz refresh before worrying about resolution our eyes cannot even tell the difference of.



  33. Muranaman on September 2, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Ram will slow down now. 8GB seems pretty much set for the next 5 years.



  34. Lhakryma on September 2, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Right now in 2019 around 16gb is the "norm"



  35. FuzzyFoyz on September 2, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    Would love to see an update of this, given the shift to cloud at present and possible future shift to blockchain.

    I would say that the shift from desktop apps to SaaS is where hardware speed requirements are becoming a thing of the past. At least as far as hardware for joe public is concerned anyway.



  36. Donut Religion on September 2, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    And now over 11 thousand subscriptions.



  37. Raden Mulyadi on September 2, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    I like the theory of using other people computer



  38. someone on September 2, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    5:34 laughs in threaddripper



  39. Trevor Welsby on September 2, 2019 at 3:23 pm

    The answer is pretty simple. Back in the day software and especially OS developers could count on everyone having a desktop computer and so the range of available processing power was confined to a narrow range. With more and more mobile hardware the gap between the top and bottom ends has gradually increased. Now software, and particularly Windows, is expected to run well on anything from a smartphone to a powerful desktop computer, so an old desktop or laptop can easily keep up with the current bottom end. The low end will continue to be relatively static due to power constraints (because power consumption is closely coupled to processing power and battery technology has not followed Moore’s Law).



  40. Joseph Keenan on September 2, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    Yeppers on the demands of your own computer being shifted to a server via the web….

    It good for the geneal useage and genral user who plays casual games and uses social media.

    When you get into people who use their computers for more rebust tasks (photo/video/graphics rendering, audio work, and to some extent the people who game the fluff stuff (FPS)) more power is still needed.

    But as you also brought up there is a marked difference between rendering a video on a dual core processor with 8G of RAM and the same speed quad core, 16G RAM and even a 1G GPU.



  41. Peter Ruiz on September 2, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    The answer is no



  42. Jimmy Andersson on September 2, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    I told my dad in the 90:s when the 166mhz computer was released, that computers won’t get any faster than this and I was right. He misunderstood me, well the computer technology will get faster but the software will also demands more power. And I build my own desktop in 2008 with the best stuff available and it’s still faster on internet than a new laptop. And it runs great with games. No reason yet to get a new computer.
    And ps: I love this chanel, I’m getting alot of memories back..๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘



  43. Oriru Bastard on September 2, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    Faster? Ha ha! No…
    But they’ll get better at multitasking and moving massive amount of data around at once.



  44. I touch little b9ts on September 2, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    Damn near a million now bud.



  45. Lewis hughes on September 2, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    Who needs to get their ears pierced when this guyโ€™s intro will do it for you



  46. DarthScape on September 2, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    "As many as 8"

    And we now have 64 cores in a single socket.



  47. Un Perrier on September 2, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Well the main reason is that in the 80s CPU was dominating the overall speed and circa 2000 it reversed: now CPU are faster than memory. That renders moot the CPU and memory graphs spanning 4 decades.
    Said differently, in the 80s memory wasn’t so much domintating the overall performance: CPU speed was the master but these days memory is the bottleneck: CPUs usually wait a number of cycles before the memory returns data. And the advance in memory speed isn’t that huge: at best it has doubled in 10 years. That’s why a processor that is 10 years old can perform today’s tasks because the workload is memory speed limited and the memory speed hasn’t improved that much in that timeframe. At least not as much as in the 80s where memory speed didn’t matter, it was CPU speed that mattered and CPU speed was growing exponentially.
    I hope all that makes sense. If not, ask about the dominance of logic gate speed vs. dynamic RAM speed on microelectronics forums (not electronics but microelectronics, and preferably to physical designers)



  48. Jacob Downey on September 2, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    @5:35 I like your graph & animation skills! Thank you for taking the time!!



  49. Tarik Al-Hoshan on September 2, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    Throw an SSD in a 10 years old PC, add some RAM and you are good to go.



  50. PERIODIC TABLE on September 2, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    clockspeeds in CPUs have not decreasd in 2015, theyve increased to around 3.5 GHz. And now in 2019, its at 5 GHz